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[-Alex]

The missing point is conception.

You're free to define The Missing Point as conception.
Others define it as a heartbeat.
Others define it as movement.
Others define it as birth.
Others define it as fertilization, while others at implantation.
Others define it as Man's seed.

But in all of the above, it's much different than just 333,964 babies who never got to grade school.

[kc26]

The missing point is conception.

You're free to define The Missing Point as conception.
Others define it as a heartbeat.
Others define it as movement.
Others define it as birth.
Others define it as fertilization, while others at implantation.
Others define it as Man's seed.

But in all of the above, it's much different than just 333,964 babies who never got to grade school.

Or when the child goes to college?



Here's a very good article ..... FROM A PRO CHOICE person. I can respect the article while at the same time disagreeing with the conclusion. At least this person is not trying to deny the facts as many pro choice people do.

Here are a few of the big points for me, but you are free to decide which are big points for you.

When we try to act like a pregnancy doesn’t involve human life, we wind up drawing stupid semantic lines in the sand: first trimester abortion vs. second trimester vs. late term, dancing around the issue trying to decide if there’s a single magic moment when a fetus becomes a person. Are you human only when you’re born? Only when you’re viable outside of the womb? Are you less of a human life when you look like a tadpole than when you can suck on your thumb?

It seems absurd to suggest that the only thing that makes us fully human is the short ride out of some lady’s vagina.

My belief that life begins at conception is mine to cling to. And if you believe that it begins at birth, or somewhere around the second trimester, or when the kid finally goes to college, that’s a conversation we can have, one that I hope would be respectful and empathetic and fearless.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/23/so_what ... ends_life/

[beenthereanddonethat]

I believe in one thing and you may another; but maybe, just maybe neither of us is wrong. This is where choice comes in. Many here claim prolife yet bitch about all the welfare babies and love the death penalty and torture. Help me out here!

[mel bradford]

Gee, it reads like 'there's a baby in the womb'. How debased we've become to think the mother has a 'right' to end it.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainme ... et-potato/

[beenthereanddonethat]

How debased are you in deciding for someone you don't even know?

[mel bradford]

I guess it takes a story about the Royals to reveal touching details about the child in the womb. But I understand, BT....real freedom is drowning the baby with sodium chloride and then peeling it off the uterine wall...and if that doesn't work, severing the brain stem with a scalpal and throwing it in the medical waste bag. It's not barbaric....it's the height of humanitarianism.

...and to think the sitting President voted emphatically for this kind of 'freedom'.

[kc26]

How debased are you in deciding for someone you don't even know?

Just read the link he posted ................ then tell me that the life that is being described in the article ............ IN ANY WOMAN .............. should not have the right to life. While that child resides in it's mother and certainly has genes from BOTH the mother and the father, that child is a separate living being.

Read the article!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you disagree with something in the article, feel free to say what it is! It is not an article that is either pro choice or pro life. It is an article describing what a child IS at 18 weeks after conception. If that reality is painful for pro choice people to acknowledge, I really don't care.

[Catchascatchcan]

Life is very sacred, and it i not up to us to end terminate it except under the most stringent circumstances in my opinion.
Abortion should not be used for birth a birth control method.

[beenthereanddonethat]

Life is very sacred, and it i not up to us to end terminate it except under the most stringent circumstances in my opinion.
Abortion should not be used for birth a birth control method.

Neither should the death penalty, pregnant women in wars, children in school with a mad gunman etc. If you value life; you value it also beyond the womb! To value life means to kill doctors? Children? Women? Innocents? Hitler did that and much more. He valued life! Those of blond hair and blue eyed people. Do you value the life of a Muslim as much as a Christian? Does God? How dare you think like minded people such as you have the corner on this discussion?

[mel bradford]

....yes, and what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?

Cognitive dissonance