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[EasyGoin]

Right, it wasn't knee-jerk at all. It was well calculated. He was after a good solution, not something simply out of response to his own near miss.

I tend to agree. I don't see a problem requiring a person to pass a background check to purchase a firearm from a dealer. I don't have a problem with a waiting period unless the purchaser has a CPL. Both are reasonable.

[mel bradford]

1.5 murders per day in Chicago. That's a Newtown massacre every 18 days.....20 per year. Its so common place it barely makes the news. It's been going on for a long time. NY, Phili, Detroit, LA, New Orleans. The culture of death is alive and well .......Dead souls walking.

[beenthereanddonethat]

1.5 murders per day in Chicago. That's a Newtown massacre every 18 days.....20 per year. Its so common place it barely makes the news. It's been going on for a long time. NY, Phili, Detroit, LA, New Orleans. The culture of death is alive and well .......Dead souls walking.

So Mel, it's just fine 20 babies were shot up to 11 times in what they thought was a safe school. It's just the price of freedom right? This should NOT be common nor accepted but accept it you do!

[mel bradford]

The hallmark of progressive thought is to never take responsibility for the effects brought on by progressive policies.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122521124435776541.html

Merry Christmas !

If you see a nativity scene, call the ACLU and have it removed. If a public official offers a public prayer punish him or her in public for trying to start a theocracy. If a teenage girl gets pregnant tell her shes oppressed and needs an abortion because there's no room in the inn (America). If you feel personal financial strain direct hatred toward the nearest business man of your choice for not paying their fair share. If you come accross a Salvation Army Red Kettle tell them they're bigots for not accepting gays in their ranks. Eventually the world will become what it deserves and the Bell hung in the center of eternity will no longer be heard.

....and Happy New Year !

[-Alex]

The hallmark of progressive thought is to never take responsibility for the effects brought on by progressive policies.

And the hallmark of conservative thought is to never take responsibility for the effects brought on by conservative policies.

Listen to the NRA's press conference? How it's everyone's fault and the fault of fake guns, but not their's and the fault of real, powerful guns? And the answer is more guns in more hands? Conservative thought.

[EasyGoin]

How it's everyone's fault and the fault of fake guns, but not their's and the fault of real, powerful guns?

A gun, any gun, is an inanimate object. Buy it's self it can't do anything, therefore it can not be at fault for anything. The fault rests with the person or persons who uses it incorrectly.

[-Alex]

A gun, any gun, is an inanimate object.

So then what is a digital reproduction of a gun in a video game, or a visual reproduction in a movie? What is that?

And how is that to blame, as the NRA is doing?

The fault rests with the person or persons who uses it incorrectly.

Solely? Not with how the gun got into the hands of those who used it incorrectly?

[EasyGoin]

So then what is a digital reproduction of a gun in a video game, or a visual reproduction in a movie? What is that?

Those aren't guns, they are pictures of guns.

And how is that to blame, as the NRA is doing?

I think what you are suggesting is that the NRA is blaming video games, correct? If that is the case, I think it's possible to make that case in a general kind of way. During the early days of WWII it was said that it was difficult to get a soldier to kill another person and that is not the case now. If that's true, what has changed? I know that the military uses video games to train soldiers. Is it possible that video games have gotten to the point that they are training people to look at other people as targets rather than people?

[-Alex]

I think what you are suggesting is that the NRA is blaming video games, correct?

And movies, correct. I'm not suggesting it, I'm just stating the facts - you can read from their press conference today yourself.

If that is the case, I think it's possible to make that case in a general kind of way.

But a lot harder to make the case than to make the case about actual guns. But they'll make the case that guns are less dangerous than video games.

During the early days of WWII it was said that it was difficult to get a soldier to kill another person and that is not the case now. If that's true, what has changed?

Military training, that the opponents are less human. Various ways they achieve this.

I know that the military uses video games to train soldiers.

And actual guns too. They use actual guns to train soldiers. And are trying to detach them more, with the use of drones and robots.

Is it possible that video games have gotten to the point that they are training people to look at other people as targets rather than people?

It is possible the MILITARY is doing that. And it is possible guns are doing that. And that movies are doing that. And that video games are doing that. But only one thing is giving people the tool to move forward.

So how are video games and movies, not guns, to blame?

[glenstar]

There is no doubt that this issue goes far beyond the tragedy in Conn. There is no doubt that divers factors contribute to the causes. Violent movies, music, and video games do, I truly believe, contribute a lot to senseless killings Unstable home life, peer pressure, lack of a spiritual culture in the home, all contribute. Yes, we need to deal with the social, spiritual and psychological factors,and we need to do so yesterday. But, that does not mitigate the need to do the preliminary first aide of more stringent gun laws. That is something that we can do now. The other factors take time, even decades and generations to change.But, we need to begin somewhere. and posting the military in every public school is not the answer. I would not be opposed to a very qualified trained armed guard in the schools, though.
Let us do what we can do now, and work on the overall picture with time.